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Ap or Not + ToS Updates

Post by Roy » Fri Mar 03, 2017 3:53 pm

There are a lot of useful sections here so far, but I was wondering if we could have an area to ask

"Should this be AP or Not?"

Would we be allowed to post that question in the ratings section? (Would we be allowed to post a -gasp- possibly ap product image?)

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an idea that maybe someone could post an announcement everytime they change the ToS (especially creator stuff) since IMVU often sneakily changes things. Maybe keep the most updated copy here with the date it was posted so we can compare differences when they do occur?
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Re: Ap or Not + ToS Updates

Post by MandaMarie » Fri Mar 03, 2017 3:58 pm

Just my thought on that, being the forum here is made for those of us with an access pass, as well as those who do not have one, access pass images would lead to those without, into possibly viewing that content. Maybe if there was a way to link what image you might be questioning to your own access pass rated homepage it may work. That way you have to have an official access pass to view it. As for here in this forum, I would feel its a bad idea. Could end up leading to a topic filled with pornography. ;p

ToS updates, on the other hand, that would be a great idea. Like, super great as long as that too can always link to an official copy of the full ToS.
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Re: Ap or Not + ToS Updates

Post by admin » Fri Mar 03, 2017 4:44 pm

Is this AP or not? is exactly the kind of stuff we can ask here, the ratings forum being the place for it.

So long as were not showing nips or dic... ( D word that rimes with nips) it should be fine 8-)

For here think PG13 limits rather than IMVUs ratings.

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Post by GuySBot » Thu Mar 09, 2017 6:50 am

I'd suggest to simply give the link to the item as its easy enough to goto imvu and then only those with AP can view it anyways .
It will avoid any troubles with this hosts TOS in the case someone gets upset and wants to start trouble or UA users viewing .
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Re: Ap or Not + ToS Updates

Post by Twiddybird » Thu Mar 09, 2017 7:04 am

Just a quick query on the subject, worrying about posting pictures of AP outfits on this forum that is NOT run by IMVU, does it still follow the same rules in regards to what is considered AP or not, Do we still have to censor images at IMVU levels, I know the idea is to help those with getting the correct rating but if the images don't show what's being exposed, how can we judge?
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Re: Ap or Not + ToS Updates

Post by GuySBot » Thu Mar 09, 2017 9:25 am

Twiddybird wrote:
Thu Mar 09, 2017 7:04 am
Just a quick query on the subject, worrying about posting pictures of AP outfits on this forum that is NOT run by IMVU, does it still follow the same rules in regards to what is considered AP or not, Do we still have to censor images at IMVU levels, I know the idea is to help those with getting the correct rating but if the images don't show what's being exposed, how can we judge?
Captain obvious here but -

In Product Ratings section this topic is a lot of suggestions - viewtopic.php?f=19&t=92

It just occurred to me that how can one check first , I never thought before posting above that you wouldn't submit first
and would ask here for opinions sorry that was very ignorant of me .

Here is an idea . . It should be possible to have a hidden section in this forum where only by approval can one enter .
Then only allow those with AP to go there , in that section have a warning and even then don't add AP pictures but
host them elsewhere so they are links to click . This should avoid any troubles with the forum hosts TOS .
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Re: Ap or Not + ToS Updates

Post by MandaMarie » Thu Mar 09, 2017 12:20 pm

Twiddybird wrote:
Thu Mar 09, 2017 7:04 am
Just a quick query on the subject, worrying about posting pictures of AP outfits on this forum that is NOT run by IMVU, does it still follow the same rules in regards to what is considered AP or not, Do we still have to censor images at IMVU levels, I know the idea is to help those with getting the correct rating but if the images don't show what's being exposed, how can we judge?
Captain K set forth the diffrences of IMVU and here. Although its fairly similar I remember in one post he said we would use more of a PG-13 clasification. But also here is what was written in viewtopic.php?f=39&t=59
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Wed Mar 01, 2017 12:15 am
(Yes sadly, we have to have them.)
  • Keep all imagery to a PG13 level. Remember we have underage users here too!

    -No Nudy Bits
    -No Smex
    -No Copyright or TM infringement (unless used for satire)
    -No Violence or Hate Speech
    -Keep it IMVU related.
  • Other than that this forum is yours, make it what you need it to be.

    Some Ideas…
    -Host Contents!
    -Have Challenges!
    -Show Off you latest work!
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Re: Ap or Not + ToS Updates

Post by Twiddybird » Thu Mar 09, 2017 12:59 pm

GuySBot wrote:
Thu Mar 09, 2017 9:25 am
Twiddybird wrote:
Thu Mar 09, 2017 7:04 am
Just a quick query on the subject, worrying about posting pictures of AP outfits on this forum that is NOT run by IMVU, does it still follow the same rules in regards to what is considered AP or not, Do we still have to censor images at IMVU levels, I know the idea is to help those with getting the correct rating but if the images don't show what's being exposed, how can we judge?
Captain obvious here but -

In Product Ratings section this topic is a lot of suggestions - viewtopic.php?f=19&t=92

It just occurred to me that how can one check first , I never thought before posting above that you wouldn't submit first
and would ask here for opinions sorry that was very ignorant of me .

Here is an idea . . It should be possible to have a hidden section in this forum where only by approval can one enter .
Then only allow those with AP to go there , in that section have a warning and even then don't add AP pictures but
host them elsewhere so they are links to click . This should avoid any troubles with the forum hosts TOS .
Hmm, Not sure if that was a dig at me Bot or not but anyway, I asked purely because I wasn't sure even after reading if this forum was going to be as tight on the AP restrictions as it is on IMVU, a lot of the AP products on IMVU do not actually show any body part that someone of a young age isn't allowed to see, showing a little too much cleavage on IMVU is considered AP yet children are breastfed everyday, was a simple query as to how tight the restrictions are going to be and was at part of my day where my brain is on lunch break so forgive my head for not seeing the obvious... Captain :P
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Re: Ap or Not + ToS Updates

Post by MandaMarie » Thu Mar 09, 2017 1:27 pm

Twiddybird wrote:
Thu Mar 09, 2017 12:59 pm

Hmm, Not sure if that was a dig at me Bot or not but anyway, I asked purely because I wasn't sure even after reading if this forum was going to be as tight on the AP restrictions as it is on IMVU, a lot of the AP products on IMVU do not actually show any body part that someone of a young age isn't allowed to see, showing a little too much cleavage on IMVU is considered AP yet children are breastfed everyday, was a simple query as to how tight the restrictions are going to be and was at part of my day where my brain is on lunch break so forgive my head for not seeing the obvious... Captain :P
As Keef had said before, that going off of a PG-13 rating, here is a description of how the US classifies a film, as PG-13.
PG-13 rated movies stand for Parental Guidance-13, with parents strongly cautioned, as some material may not be suitable for children under 13. Again, it’s a matter of what isn’t in the film; any nudity has to be non-sexual, any swear words have to be used sparingly, and, in the event of the specific obscenity we politely call the F-word, not used in a sexual context. (You can say “Oh, (BLANK) this!” in a PG-13 film, but not more than once, and never “I’d love to (BLANK) Denise …”) Violence in PG-13 films may be intense, but must also be bloodless – see Jurassic World or any Marvel Movie, for example – and it is, as per usual, the Ratings Board’s call if the film's content is deemed to be more than PG but less than R.
So within that brief nudity is allowed, however in still images, it isn't brief at all. Blood and gore need to be limited, as per example. I know TV in the UK is much different than it is in the US. UK television has fewer restrictions then we do so, that can make things a bit more confusing. I do think Keef wanted to instead of relying on very detailed rules, long and drawn out text and instead rely on our best judgment.

If you post a full bare breast, I feel it will probably be taken down. Breastfeeding or not. However, extra cleavage is okay, even in IMVU these days. MCG no longer pertains to images in IMVU. A Strong sexual reference would not be okay. If the image is meant for sales of a product in the IMVU catalog, it just needs to link directly to IMVU's official catalog, that way GA IMVU users, cant be linked to content, they are not supposed to be.

Hope this was helpfull, more than confusing. Also if a mod could agree, disagree, or clarify? :D
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Post by GuySBot » Thu Mar 09, 2017 3:06 pm

Twiddybird wrote:
Thu Mar 09, 2017 12:59 pm
GuySBot wrote:
Thu Mar 09, 2017 9:25 am
Twiddybird wrote:
Thu Mar 09, 2017 7:04 am
Just a quick query on the subject, worrying about posting pictures of AP outfits on this forum that is NOT run by IMVU, does it still follow the same rules in regards to what is considered AP or not, Do we still have to censor images at IMVU levels, I know the idea is to help those with getting the correct rating but if the images don't show what's being exposed, how can we judge?
Captain obvious here but -

In Product Ratings section this topic is a lot of suggestions - viewtopic.php?f=19&t=92

It just occurred to me that how can one check first , I never thought before posting above that you wouldn't submit first
and would ask here for opinions sorry that was very ignorant of me .

Here is an idea . . It should be possible to have a hidden section in this forum where only by approval can one enter .
Then only allow those with AP to go there , in that section have a warning and even then don't add AP pictures but
host them elsewhere so they are links to click . This should avoid any troubles with the forum hosts TOS .
Hmm, Not sure if that was a dig at me Bot or not but anyway, I asked purely because I wasn't sure even after reading if this forum was going to be as tight on the AP restrictions as it is on IMVU, a lot of the AP products on IMVU do not actually show any body part that someone of a young age isn't allowed to see, showing a little too much cleavage on IMVU is considered AP yet children are breastfed everyday, was a simple query as to how tight the restrictions are going to be and was at part of my day where my brain is on lunch break so forgive my head for not seeing the obvious... Captain :P
No dig meant at all sorry I have poor writing skills and I'm always in a rush to get no-where .
I meant I was being captain obvious by posting the link/topic above in which I'd guess'd you may have had already seen .
and not in any way to say it should be obvious because I really had no clue either .
Sorry bout that but I'm glad you mentioned it otherwise you may have just thought i'm some jerk :lol: !
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Post by Twiddybird » Thu Mar 09, 2017 3:26 pm

The quotes are getting longer so won't hijack the whole screen with another but It helps Manda, thankies and not at all Bot, all advice is helpful even if it does sometimes read different to it's intentional meaning, thankies both of you :D
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Post by MandaMarie » Thu Mar 09, 2017 3:30 pm

I think a good rule of thumb, for quick posts here, is this. Do you think this image might not be suitable here in this forum? Then its possible it might not be. :D
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Post by admin » Thu Mar 09, 2017 11:36 pm

I'll make the AP forum suggestion a poll and see if its something the community wants.

It would be easy to set up an AP Approved Group and set up forms only they can see and use. We would have to set up a few group leaders that would be in charge of AP verification.
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Post by GuySBot » Fri Mar 10, 2017 2:59 am

MandaMarie wrote:
Fri Mar 03, 2017 3:58 pm
Just my thought on that, being the forum here is made for those of us with an access pass, as well as those who do not have one, access pass images would lead to those without, into possibly viewing that content. Maybe if there was a way to link what image you might be questioning to your own access pass rated homepage it may work. That way you have to have an official access pass to view it. As for here in this forum, I would feel its a bad idea. Could end up leading to a topic filled with pornography. ;p

ToS updates, on the other hand, that would be a great idea. Like, super great as long as that too can always link to an official copy of the full ToS.
This will be highly confusing and more just sorting hat my own mind round and round , I'd recommend no one reads it lol .
Isn't it funny when you hear stuff like that now you GOTTA read it . . . good luck , I warned ya !

I don't know how I missed your post because it makes perfect sense to use IMVU AP marked pages instead of jeopardizing the forum .
All though it does have a couple flaws , so I'm glad I missed it otherwise it may not have occurred to me to suggest an AP - approved section in said manner . Cuz like had I not missed it I wouldn't have suggested nor after seeing others concerns after the fact . . I would not be thinking the following .

I'm not even sure if this is possible but if you don't have AP and your own stuff you submitted is somehow gets AP rated does that mean you can't use it
or even see it ? What a conundrum ! Anyway that really doesn't matter but moreso to me is while it would be easy enough for me or anyone to change ours page to AP view only isn't something I'd ever want to do . I mean it really doesn't matter for the most part accept those who do view homepages you'd miss out on them seeing your latest products , which isn't to say they cant just view your catalog but I imagine latest outfits and latest product tabs are there for a reason as they can work to help sales . No an IMVU pet peeve of mine is I just don't like AP pages - not the pages themselves so to speak but more to say I don't like extra clicks - IMVU flaw to make people with AP click I agree to being AP and viewing this AP page and every single AP set page you visit . Really should be some setting because it gets even more annoying when most of the AP marked pages you goto have no content added ala everything hidden . Then again maybe your idea does make more sense than mine if it is possible to have an AP album at our IMVU pages . Another flaw in their system I recon where you can probably upload AP pics to non-ap albums , so I guess better yet to have an AP only section here then we never have to worry about that rule being broken .
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